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Post by Penelope Cruz on Apr 20, 2012 19:18:29 GMT -5
Mhm... How would I not live in a world with those values? Do you even know what pity is? I truly would NEVER pity you... And don't need or want any pity from you!
You are a fucking bitch that doesn't give a shit about anyone but your ugly ass!! You look like a man! And a fucking horror in your signature!
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 20, 2012 19:32:56 GMT -5
Wow! Resorting to personal attacks now because you're not getting your way? Well that's saying something.
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Post by Danielle Panabaker on Apr 20, 2012 19:40:05 GMT -5
You can't even see air, what are you talking about Danielle?! Mine was an emotional representation of my element, and I don't agree with the entire call out. I would have had earth and fire as the weakest groups. With Kristen being eliminated. What is this here? A dictatorship where I can't express my opinion publicly without being patronised, ridiculed and attacked for it? Amanda asked me who I thought should have been eliminated and I responded honestly. I'm sorry you all live in a world where honesty and freedom of speech don't exist. I really pity you. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well I get it now, YOU can give your opinion but I can't give one back, ok got it. And you specifically said me NOT Kristen, that is why I replied because I so did not feel mine was the worst photo. I'm sorry you felt attacked but for me, I felt attacked first. I might say i'm surprised by elims or where I placed but i do try to be considerate of other people's feelings unless they say stuff about me first
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Post by Danielle Panabaker on Apr 20, 2012 19:41:15 GMT -5
I actually save my insults for my confessional lol And they are not meant to be mean but to have fun with the game.
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 20, 2012 19:53:41 GMT -5
You can't even see air, what are you talking about Danielle?! Mine was an emotional representation of my element, and I don't agree with the entire call out. I would have had earth and fire as the weakest groups. With Kristen being eliminated. What is this here? A dictatorship where I can't express my opinion publicly without being patronised, ridiculed and attacked for it? Amanda asked me who I thought should have been eliminated and I responded honestly. I'm sorry you all live in a world where honesty and freedom of speech don't exist. I really pity you. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well I get it now, YOU can give your opinion but I can't give one back, ok got it. And you specifically said me NOT Kristen, that is why I replied because I so did not feel mine was the worst photo. I'm sorry you felt attacked but for me, I felt attacked first. I might say i'm surprised by elims or where I placed but i do try to be considerate of other people's feelings unless they say stuff about me first You never gave an opinion. You just stated something to do with my photo, to which I explained. And given the bottom two groups that were up for elimination, I said who I would have eliminated. Yes, if air were up for elimination, I would have eliminated myself.
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Post by Sophia Bush on Apr 20, 2012 20:11:20 GMT -5
The problem is there was no need to call anybody out or at least you should kept it in your confessional.
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 20, 2012 20:45:19 GMT -5
Or, you could take what I say and take it into consideration in your future shoots. I may not be a judge this time, but I know what I'm talking about - I only really want to help out. I'm not trying to be harsh like I was with Janice, or a Libby like I was with Ayumi, but I'm not going to suppress my outspoken personality. I'd prefer if we all just respected each other. I would never sabotage anyone. I mean in cycle 9, I was stuck with Troian round 1, but I still helped her out, found a better photo and cropped it, and uploaded. I gave advice to Ashley and Kate as to which photo to choose (Though Kate ended up finding an even better photo, much to my pleasure.
So Sophia, favor studio photos over screen grabs, and look for fashion and modeling in your photos - Your photo had a good idea, but no execution. And Danielle, well you do great in males, but not females, it seems. With that particular photo, it was stiff and contained. So in photoshoots that can involve a more artistic representation like an elements shoot, or seasons, calendar, muses, etc, it's good to find a few emotions or things associated with them, it will help you stand out and the judges will remember you.
I am open to PMs if anyone wants to talk.
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Post by Danielle Panabaker on Apr 20, 2012 21:14:19 GMT -5
OK, i respect your opinion Dita. And appreciate helpful comments. I have played, hosted and judged in model games for years and feel I know what I'm doing but when faced with different judges with different opinions, it becomes hard. Seeing as the judges rotate here, it's hard to always please them. I go with my gut. I hated my picture, but didn't see it as the worst. I also try to fulfill the requirements and don't really bring emotion into my photos because I dont' always get it. But I am not a judge and my opinion doesn't matter here. You just hurt my feelings so I hit back. Sorry.
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 20, 2012 21:23:20 GMT -5
Well all of the judges on this panel have judged before. So backtrack to cycle 6-7, and you can get a feeling of what one of them likes. And another has judged you before in both males and females. Theme fitting is important for her.
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Post by Sophia Bush on Apr 20, 2012 23:17:36 GMT -5
Ok it was all just one big misunderstanding. But some advice for you when you criticize try not to be as aggressive as your first post because people take it the wrong way but thank you for the advice.
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Post by Emily Vancamp on Apr 20, 2012 23:21:57 GMT -5
can we answer questions in sequester? dita is right!
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Post by Monica Bellucci on Apr 20, 2012 23:42:22 GMT -5
Well all of the judges on this panel have judged before. So backtrack to cycle 6-7, and you can get a feeling of what one of them likes. And another has judged you before in both males and females. Theme fitting is important for her. To be honest, though, as someone who has judged alongside these judges and been judged by them (well, not Natalie) I will say that I have been incredibly befuddled on several occasions. For instance, this round I was completely shocked that I got points off for not being 'realistic' with my photo, when Amber's water element photo had a similarly unrealistic element, and that's what got her FCO. And let's not even mention last cycle's Shoes round, where I got points off for being "hoochie" while January got FCO with a nude shot in the SAME ROUND. While there are some aspects that are always going to be popular or unpopular with the judges, on the whole I can pretty conclusively say that arbitrariness is the order of the day. The same thing judges loved a few rounds ago they won't love now, the same thing they hate in one photo they'll love in another. That's just how the game goes.
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 20, 2012 23:46:39 GMT -5
I liked your photo Monica. I thought it represented Fire's passion well.
As I said, my photo was more about the sensuality the wind brings, caressing your face like a lost lover, running his fingers through your hair, but The element was there.
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Post by Hayley Williams on Apr 21, 2012 0:44:45 GMT -5
I had absolutely no problem with Monica's photo being "unrealistic".
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Post by Dita Von Teese on Apr 21, 2012 8:16:08 GMT -5
PS. Nude =/= Hooch. January's was tastefully done.
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